Comments on: Domain name madness http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/ Internet marketing Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:54:40 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ray T http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-294 Ray T Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:46:01 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-294 This proposal by ICANN to allow variable pricing essentually allows them to blackmail certain businesses. This proposal by ICANN to allow variable pricing essentually allows them to blackmail certain businesses.

]]> By: Hari http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-293 Hari Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:26:46 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-293 It is only surprising and greedy move for a registry like .org, which mostly has non-profit organizations who use the .org extensions to pay variable pricing for renewal of domain. It is only surprising and greedy move for a registry like .org, which mostly has non-profit organizations who use the .org extensions to pay variable pricing for renewal of domain.

]]> By: Ken McCarthy http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Ken McCarthy Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:21:12 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-292 The window for posting opinions on the proposed changes to the ICANN site ended at 9 PM Pacific time so I'm closing comments on this article out as well. We've heard every possible variation of why the ICANN proposal is of no concern. I want to encourage all the "know it alls" who've been knocking themselves out insisting that ICANN's proposal has no downside to actually read the proposal - appendixes included - and read the public comments on the ICANN site from experienced domain name attorneys who have articulated numerous reasons for opposing the proposed changes. The window for posting opinions on the proposed changes to the ICANN site ended at 9 PM Pacific time so I’m closing comments on this article out as well.

We’ve heard every possible variation of why the ICANN proposal is of no concern.

I want to encourage all the “know it alls” who’ve been knocking themselves out insisting that ICANN’s proposal has no downside to actually read the proposal – appendixes included – and read the public comments on the ICANN site from experienced domain name attorneys who have articulated numerous reasons for opposing the proposed changes.

]]> By: abc http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-291 abc Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:07:55 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-291 The arbitrary pricing language is contained in the appendix pdf's, not the main agreement pdf's. The pricing section denotes the price per domain to be about $6.00US. The clause in question is the last line/paragraph in that very same pricing section. The clause is not present in the .org appendix but that may be a typo. Go read it again people. The arbitrary pricing language is contained in the appendix pdf’s, not the main agreement pdf’s. The pricing section denotes the price per domain to be about $6.00US. The clause in question is the last line/paragraph in that very same pricing section. The clause is not present in the .org appendix but that may be a typo. Go read it again people.

]]> By: Floyd Fisher http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-290 Floyd Fisher Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:40:58 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-290 I got here too late to register any comment. Here's my take on the situation. Just because you can set a certain price, does not mean they will. You could price a Camry at $100,000 per car, but who would buy them. Yeah, prices may go up, but probably not nearly as much as planned. The only way the prices would go up that much is if ICANN actually forced registrars to set those kind of prices. Otherwise registrars like godaddy would simply undercut the competition and take all the business. I didn't see anything in there where ICANN would be forcing those kinds of pricing changes on registrars. And how would they benefit from it? Would they actually make more money doing it? And where would that money go? Too much conspiracy, too much competition for that to happen. But that is just my opinion on the whole thing. I got here too late to register any comment.

Here’s my take on the situation. Just because you can set a certain price, does not mean they will.

You could price a Camry at $100,000 per car, but who would buy them.

Yeah, prices may go up, but probably not nearly as much as planned. The only way the prices would go up that much is if ICANN actually forced registrars to set those kind of prices. Otherwise registrars like godaddy would simply undercut the competition and take all the business.

I didn’t see anything in there where ICANN would be forcing those kinds of pricing changes on registrars. And how would they benefit from it? Would they actually make more money doing it? And where would that money go?

Too much conspiracy, too much competition for that to happen. But that is just my opinion on the whole thing.

]]> By: Ken McCarthy http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-289 Ken McCarthy Tue, 29 Aug 2006 02:19:34 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-289 People who use domains for scams will not be effected by this at all. They buy junk names which they throw away within weeks if not days. Kiting is the practice of signing up for thousands of names and only keeping and paying for the ones that pay out from type-in traffic. This won't stop kiting either. The problem is that potentially renewal fees will not be based on a fixed rate, but on a case-by-case basis. "Valuable" domains - those that have lots of links, good page rank, reputation, traffic etc. - will potentially cost more to renew. It's like charging Shakespeare more for his paper because he writes good plays. If there is a modest, across-the-board increase in renewal fees, that's manageable, but that's NOT what we're concerned about. People who use domains for scams will not be effected by this at all.

They buy junk names which they throw away within weeks if not days.

Kiting is the practice of signing up for thousands of names and only keeping and paying for the ones that pay out from type-in traffic.
This won’t stop kiting either.

The problem is that potentially renewal fees will not be based on a fixed rate, but on a case-by-case basis.

“Valuable” domains – those that have lots of links, good page rank, reputation, traffic etc. – will potentially cost more to renew.

It’s like charging Shakespeare more for his paper because he writes good plays.

If there is a modest, across-the-board increase in renewal fees, that’s manageable, but that’s NOT what we’re concerned about.

]]> By: aafd http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-288 aafd Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:06:08 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-288 Its so sad when 99% of the comments left are by people whom have not read the story or are not able to think for themselves. The truth is that the prices of domains are not going to rise drastically , Thus I and most people would like to see either domain prices hiked up or more more safeguards in place to remove Squatters, Scammers,Domain prospectors who hold onto millions of domains with no intention of use. Hopefully Within the next few years Domain Kiting will become irrelevant as its killing the internet and growth of the internet. Its so sad when 99% of the comments left are by people whom have not read the story or are not able to think for themselves.

The truth is that the prices of domains are not going to rise drastically , Thus I and most people would like to see either domain prices hiked up or more more safeguards in place to remove Squatters, Scammers,Domain prospectors who hold onto millions of domains with no intention of use.

Hopefully Within the next few years Domain Kiting will become irrelevant as its killing the internet and growth of the internet.

]]> By: Colin Kingsbury http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-287 Colin Kingsbury Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:59:28 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-287 Seems to me this is crying out for some precedent. In the US, IIRC, there are some rules around business phone numbers, particularly toll-free ones, that basically forbid these kind of shenanigans. While you don't literally "own" 1-800-Flowers there are a lot of rules in terms of what AT&T (or whoever hosts it for you) can actually do with it. Seems to me this is crying out for some precedent. In the US, IIRC, there are some rules around business phone numbers, particularly toll-free ones, that basically forbid these kind of shenanigans. While you don’t literally “own” 1-800-Flowers there are a lot of rules in terms of what AT&T (or whoever hosts it for you) can actually do with it.

]]> By: David http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-286 David Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:22:57 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-286 Uh it's "bear" not "bare" one means "to endure" the other means "uncovered". Uh it’s “bear” not “bare” one means “to endure” the other means “uncovered”.

]]> By: Tom http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/2006/08/28/domain-name-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-285 Tom Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:28:56 +0000 http://kenmccarthy.com/blog/?p=60#comment-285 way 2 go howard, wat are icaan thinking? have they lost the plot? way 2 go howard, wat are icaan thinking? have they lost the plot?

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